How much should I offer for this truck?

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
08/12/2016 at 14:11 • Filed to: None

1947 Chevrolet Advance Design Truck, 1 ton
Runs but no brakes. Dump bed is functional.
Thoughts?

DISCUSSION (41)

crowmolly > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 14:13

$1500

Pickup_man > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 14:22

I’d say a couple thousand at the most.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 14:22

Whatever you need to offer to take it home.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 14:37

No idea what it’s worth, but if you got it you should turn it into a Hatari! game truck.

Kinja'd!!!

Also, the Series I ‘86 (1958 or so) and Series II or IIA Rover lurking in the background are choice.

Cash Rewards > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 14:43

It depends on if you think you can get the brakes up and running on site, or you’re going to tow that thing out of there. That won’t be cheap.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 14:52

Yeah I would go under $2k, it needs help in other areas.

XJDano > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 14:53

A Tree & a Fidy

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
08/12/2016 at 14:55

Oops, screwed up on the Series I ID - it’s an ‘80, the earlier version. 1952 or something like, because the fender tops are one-piece. The II/IIA is most likely a mid-year (‘63-’67) IIA due to Four Wheel Drive Station Wagon badge.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 15:06

I need to move to California. I thought I had it good doing restorations in Virginia (as opposed to Maine, where I grew up), but dear god, the lack of rust on that thing...

DanZman > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 15:12

1 find out how much it weighs

2 find its scrap value

3 subtract tow cost from scrap value

4 offer 125-150% of scrap value minus tow.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever
08/12/2016 at 16:37

It’s been sitting outside for years, too. I guess that must be obvious...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Cash Rewards
08/12/2016 at 16:38

I’ll trailer it home, about 250 miles.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DanZman
08/12/2016 at 16:38

Using that algorithm, the guy would have to pay me about $300 to bring it home.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 17:06

is that a 4x4 12 passenger ford van parked next to it??

Kinja'd!!!

but....... back to the question........... pretty near anything up to or around $2k..... just know that the front fenders are different than the smaller trucks(larger wheel openings) and that the brakes are a bit more expensive on the 2, and 2 1/2 ton trucks........ you could sell off the working dump bed. and get a chunk of your money back right there...... or convert the dump bed to a tilt flat bed, or just a stationary flat bed. inline 6, and probably a sm420 mucie 4 speed. so long as you keep oil and water in them, they are hard to kill......

if it has the split ring wheels, that it looks like it does, then budget replacing them....... those things can kill a guy ( the one working on them) most shops, that know anything about anything wont touch them........

check it for papers......

get it for as cheap as you can manage, but like i said........ i wouldnt feel bad up to and about $2ooo, seeing as how everything seems to be there.

you might spend another 1500 to get it all “legal”..........

DanZman > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 17:12

Hahaha, it sounds like you have found yourself a deal! Seriously though, I would not pay over $1k and would be aiming closer to $400.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 17:56

Thank you. Your input is what I was looking for. I would look at hybridizing, keeping the engine/trans and looking for a more modern axle/suspension with upgraded brakes and non-split ring wheels. I did split rings in the Army. Kind of enjoyed it, actually...

Yes, 4x4 van, diesel powered. Are you even marginally interested in it?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DanZman
08/12/2016 at 17:57

That’s right where my gut is on this. Like, $500-800.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 17:59

And I have a place to store it and work on it where there are cranes available. And forklifts.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 18:22

i have only ever gotten to see them momentarily in passing.......... i HATE working on vans...... BUT the absurdity of the whole thing, all the 4x4 goodness tucked in the front of a van........ just spectacular........i couldnt possibly meet my heroes...... i have about 4 projects going as it is.........

Back to the ‘47

the 1 ton and down 47s fit onto the squarebody chevy trucks (73-90?)very nearly perfectly....... the frame width is within about 1/2 to about an inch, from what my friends tell me (i would have to measure to be certain(my friends have updated several 50ish trucks this way))........ and if you managed to get a 1 ton frame, the taller wheels might fill the ‘47 front fenders fairly decent. the rest of the front clip is pretty well all the same, aside from the fenders,

the inline, and 420, get about 10-15 TOPS miles per gallon. you could gear up a good ways, and the torque from the inline would lug it just fine.

DanZman > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 18:24

I would only pay more if I was desperate. I really hope that I'm never desperate to purchase a 60+ year old work truck with no brakes! LOL

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 18:31

whenever we are moving cabs around, we usually use a lifting strap, wrapped through the cab, right at the front top of the pillars, and things usually balance out JUST............ about right.......

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 19:14

Wow. You are the fount of knowledge that I needed. I am going to float $750 as an offer.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > DanZman
08/12/2016 at 19:21

I just floated a $750 offer his way. There’s a contorted family connection I have with the owner. Oppo Die-Trying is giving some good advice in this thread also.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 19:24

yeah, should be able to get it for around that..........most people look right past the big trucks anyhow, because.......BIG truck....... and most folks just are’nt in the dump bed truck market..........

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 19:25

Wikipedia’s article on the Chevrolet Advance Design Truck makes me think it’s a ‘47.

I’d rather it have a much lighter suspension than a one-ton because I’ll only be puttering around with it. A dumping flat bed is a nice idea.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 19:29

the doors are before ‘51 (no vent windows)

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 19:33

I’d probably sell or throw away the dump bed and fab a flatbed with sideboards. Long term project.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 19:34

1 tons ride nice and soft*..........*(provided you have enough weight) but if you arent heavy enough, it would ride like an iron wheeled wagon.........

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 19:39

Honestly? I’d give it half-ton suspension and one-ton wheels, with singles in the rear and lose the duals.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 19:39

you ought to be able to get a little bit of your money back, if you sold the PTO box,the shafts and the hydraulic ram.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 19:41

I’m told that all of that is in working order. Might make a $750 offer fall flat.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 19:45

i was going to mention, that a lot of those old brake set ups seep at the wheel cylinders, and that they just drain themselves out over time......... sometimes you can get lucky, and fill them back up, and bleed them, and they will work for a good little while......... driving those older trucks, just takes a bit of planning (no panic stops) downshifting when stopping.......

make the offer, and let him mull it over for a while.......... CA$H......

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/12/2016 at 19:47

Modernize the brakes... But planning for the trip? There’s nothing wrong with that if the vehicle is Jalop.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/12/2016 at 22:39

i was thinking about for taking the truck cruising up, and around the neighborhood......... until you got the parts together to put the half ton bits underneath it........ “who wants to go for ICE CREAM.??........ in the 47??.........yeah well, more for me.....”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/13/2016 at 00:16

Pretty much. It’s a four-mile commute to the middle school where I teach math. And there’s a parade in town a couple times a year.

I did split rings in the Army; they don’t intimidate me at all. I just make sure it’s in the tire cage when I inflate it.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/13/2016 at 17:34

i have gotten to assist with the split rings changing out tires on them........ yeah, they are fine*.........*so long as the grooves that interlock are in good shape, and havent rusted to crap. once they rust up a bit, they lose that crisp edge that latches. when the tires first seat to the edge of the bead, and pop into place, thats a whole lot of force tied up there in that little spot. when we aired them up for the first time we didnt have a cage, so we ran a chain around the tire , through the rim, and used one of the lock on, and walk away chucks............ exciting stuff to be sure.......

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/13/2016 at 17:37

not scared of them........just have respect for the forces involved........

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/14/2016 at 04:41

From the Department of How Not To Do It...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/14/2016 at 17:11

Surely that is a manequin. Lying on a split-ring tire whilst inflating same is Darwinian behavior.

Die-Trying > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/15/2016 at 01:43

Kinja'd!!!

yeah, it is a dummy.........but that air-time, and how the ring doesnt even slow down.......

i know every so often i catch myself in some sort of similar situation, where i say “i really shouldnt leave _____ sitting here next to _____”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Die-Trying
08/15/2016 at 09:48

“Boy, was I ever just lucky...”